We have our very own tax advocate courtesy of the IRS. This should get things moving in the right direction.
Last week we faxed (at $2.00/page) our documents to Mr. Advocate assuming this means that he will forward them to the correct department and they will be forced to actually acknowledge we have sent them (third time,now). Yesterday Mr. Advocate calls me wanting information before he forwards our papers. He has not sent them onward. What he wants, I cannot produce as I do not know what it is. You see we did not claim medical or psychiatric expenses. We did not claim anything but our children nd our mortgage and the adoption.I explained to him at least four times just what it is we did last year (claimed Youngest son’s adoption in 2009,Tax Act subtracted the allowable credit(s) towards our paltry taxable income and electronically produced all forms needed-which we never saw since it was sent electronically-and sent them to the IRS.) and this year (filled out the work sheet for the 8839 which computer generated the actual 8839 which we did see because this year we filled via paper return).
I was advised not to send our adoption decree,nor to contact Tax Act for help. We will be mailed (snail,not E because they are not allowed to e-mail)the forms I am pretty sure are identical to what we have already sent in three times now, to fill out and fax (at $2.00/page) back. At that time the advocate (perhaps I have the wrong definition of the word) will then forward our packet to the appropriate person or persons to be reviewed.
I was almost in tears I was so frustrated talking to this gentleman with a decidedly non-US accent (are we outsourcing the IRS now?). i repeated my “explanation” at least a half dozen times before I snapped and
told him (and I am sure I am now on some watch list somewhere for subversiveness) that we can give money to Libya but we cannot help our own.
It is always my mouth that gets me into trouble.
I literally had a migraine by time I was off the phone with our advocate.
I am beginning to think there are no monies available to pay this credit-which the government offered,we did not ask for. Instead of saying”sorry folks,we’re broke”, adoptive parents are being asked to do the impossible so it is their fault if they do not receive the credit.
It wouldn’t be so bad if it was never offered. Most of the adoptive parents I know adopted out of foster care and live with troubled children and little outside support.Many of us are one income families. Most of us dedicated our lives to our children in a way that is different from our dedication to our birth children.
It is not that the credit may not actually arrive that upsets me. It is that it was offered unsolicited and then turned into just one more set of demoralizing gymnastics we are forced to perform to obtain help for our children. Because,you see,this money would be used directly for our kids. It would allow us to step back a bit from the financial precipice we stand on. We chose the precipice willingly when we brought hurt children into our home. We may not have understood completely just how long we would spend there,nor did we anticipate the current recession/depression,but we did choose children over income.
On the other hand we are very human and the money would be of enormous help to us. It seemed briefly as if it was an acknowledgment of our calling;help unasked for,but not unneeded.
Now it is simply a large thorn in our side.

About lenell

Wife to a very patient man and mom to 8 interesting kids via birth,marriage and adoption. Grandma to nearly 5,nearly perfect grandchildren.
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2 Responses to advocate???

  1. Carmel says:

    I feel you. You are lucky that you have been able to get ahold of your Tax Advocate. We were assigned one 3 weeks ago. After 1.5 weeks of calling several times a day and leaving messages, we received a letter from here stating that we send paperwork and that she had tried to get ahold of us and couldn’t *LIE*. She finally left a message last week stating some computer glitch was why it took her so long to initate contact (note how that excuse doesn’t correspond to the letter she sent) but since then we have continued with our stalkerish calling several times a day and still haven’t received a call back. Today we started stalking her manager and her managers secretary so here’s hoping. Oh, and on the letter we received she said she hoped to get this resolved in July, HAHAHA how is that even remotely helpful now to someone who is claiming financial hardship!!!

  2. Rebecca says:

    I was so frustrated talking to this gentleman with a decidedly non-US accent (are we outsourcing the IRS now?)

    I know plenty of people in the U.S. who have foreign accents. My boyfriend is a naturalized U.S. citizen, in fact. I’m sorry you are having trouble with your taxes and I’m sorry that the man’s accent is feeding into your frustrations, but that doesn’t mean you need to give any assumptions or prejudices free reign. Many people with foreign accents are in fact located here in the U.S. and a good number of them are as much a U.S. citizen as you are.

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